Wikipedija:Pijaca – razlika između verzija
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:Ali ima većina tekstova u normalnoj verziji na :bs: i većinom :sr: (na međurazumljivim jezičkim standardima) plus ovdje na :sh: (ono što nije prekopirano sa :hr: na :sh:). --[[Korisnik:Obsuser|Obsuser]] ([[Razgovor sa korisnikom:Obsuser|razgovor]]) 22:11, 8 decembar 2019 (CET) |
:Ali ima većina tekstova u normalnoj verziji na :bs: i većinom :sr: (na međurazumljivim jezičkim standardima) plus ovdje na :sh: (ono što nije prekopirano sa :hr: na :sh:). --[[Korisnik:Obsuser|Obsuser]] ([[Razgovor sa korisnikom:Obsuser|razgovor]]) 22:11, 8 decembar 2019 (CET) |
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Zna li neko zašto sh.wikipedia.org (i bs.wikipedia.org) nema(ju) kao sr.wikipedia.org pretragu sa ćiriličko-latiničkim konvertorom, uz opciju preslovljavanja teksta (tagovi se mogu zanemariti)? |
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I ako postoji razlog za to, nadam se da je OK ovdje na sh praviti preusmjerenja sa pisama, ali to mi izgleda besmisleno jer onda za svaki naslov bi u principu moglo da se pravi preusmjerenje, a to je isti broj preusmjerenja kao i broj članaka. --[[Korisnik:Obsuser|Obsuser]] ([[Razgovor sa korisnikom:Obsuser|razgovor]]) 08:10, 14 decembar 2019 (CET) |
Verzija na datum 14 decembar 2019 u 09:10
Dobrodošli na Pijacu Wikipedije na srpskohrvatskom jeziku. Ovdje se može razgovarati o bilo čemu što se tiče Wikipedije i gdje bismo se trebali dogovoriti kako da ova Wikipedia uznapreduje.
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Vreme u Skorašnjim izmenama
Zašto vreme u skorašnjim izmenama kasni za 2 sata? Bar je meni tako kad uđem na tu stranicu na kompu. --Ivan VA (razgovor) 12:24, 2 juli 2018 (CEST)
- Mislim da je to neka sistemska stvar. Na zimskom računanju vremena je, mislim samo jedan. OC Ripper, da li se to riješiti sistemski? --E.A.Poe 12:45, 2 juli 2018 (CEST)
- To se da uraditi u korisničkim postavkama pod stavkom "Vremenska razlika" gdje svaki korisnik može postaviti vlastitu vremensku zonu. --OC Ripper (razgovor) 12:52, 2 juli 2018 (CEST)
- Vidim da na ostalim sh.inačicama vikipedije ne kasni. Prekopirati rešenja od tamo? --Ivan VA (razgovor) 17:44, 2 juli 2018 (CEST)
Tidy to RemexHtml
The Parsing team will be replacing Tidy with RemexHtml at this wiki on 5 July 2018.
Some pages at this wiki use outdated HTML. This change may change the appearance of those pages. Special:LintErrors has a complete list of affected pages.
Read this e-mail message for more information. Read the instructions at mw:Help:Extension:Linter. You can ask questions at mw:Talk:Parsing/Replacing Tidy. Thank you for helping fix these problems.
m:User:Elitre (WMF) 16:38, 2 juli 2018 (CEST)
nova stranica
pozdrav, napravila sam stranicu tj.wiki clanak Dragan Bursac i publish sam je ali kad trazim na google dragan bursac ne pojavljuje se uopste? molim za pomoc. Dragan Bursac je najznacajniji bosanskohercegovacki kolumnista i novinar.
- Googleu nekad treba neko vrijeme da "shvati" da postoji neka stranica na Internetu, a onda da taj rezultat završi na vrhu. Evo meni je iskočilo kao drugi rezultat na unos "Dragan Bursac Wikipedija". Sheldonist (razgovor) 14:35, 12 juli 2018 (CEST)
Tragom duše 2018
Zdravo svima! Zadovoljstvo mi je da vas obavestim da će i ove godine u Republici Srpskoj biti organizovano fotografsko takmičenje „Tragom duše 2018”. Projekat će biti realizovan u organizaciji Vikimedijine zajednice Republike Srpske u periodu od 1. avgusta do 27. oktobra tekuće godine. Ukoliko ste zainteresovani za učešće i pružanje pomoći u organizaciji, promociji ili u okviru nekog drugog segmenta — biće nam drago da sarađujemo. Pišite nam na korisničkoj stranici. Bojana Wiki PG (razgovor) 19:09, 9 juli 2018 (CEST)
Global preferences are available
Global preferences are now available, you can set them by visiting your new global preferences page. Visit mediawiki.org for information on how to use them and leave feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)
21:19, 10 juli 2018 (CEST)
New user group for editing sitewide CSS / JS
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Hi all!
To improve the security of our readers and editors, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed. (These are pages like MediaWiki:Common.css
and MediaWiki:Vector.js
which contain code that is executed in the browsers of users of the site.)
A new user group, interface-admin
, has been created.
Starting four weeks from now, only members of this group will be able edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with .css
or .js
that is either in the MediaWiki:
namespace or is another user's user subpage).
You can learn more about the motivation behind the change here.
Please add users who need to edit CSS/JS to the new group (this can be done the same way new administrators are added, by stewards or local bureaucrats). This is a dangerous permission; a malicious user or a hacker taking over the account of a careless interface-admin can abuse it in far worse ways than admin permissions could be abused. Please only assign it to users who need it, who are trusted by the community, and who follow common basic password and computer security practices (use strong passwords, do not reuse passwords, use two-factor authentication if possible, do not install software of questionable origin on your machine, use antivirus software if that's a standard thing in your environment).
Thanks!
Tgr (talk) 19:45, 30 juli 2018 (CEST) (via global message delivery)
Enabling a helpful feature for Template editors
Hello.
The team working on TemplateStyles at the Wikimedia Foundation would like to enable TemplateStyles on this wiki.
TemplateStyles is a feature to allow non-administrators to write and manage CSS styles for templates. It allows contributors who edit templates to separate content and presentation. A good web practice that makes it easier to manage the layout of templates. If you don't edit templates, this will not have any impact on your contributions.
TemplateStyles is useful for a few reasons.
- It makes it possible for templates to work better on mobile.
- It cuts out confusion on where to apply CSS rules.
- Editing CSS is currently limited to administrators, which is a major barrier to participation.
- All stylesheets must be loaded on all pages (whether they actually use the page or not), which wastes bandwidth and makes debugging style rules more difficult.
You can learn more about TemplateStyles on MediaWiki.org. Technical documentation is also available.
This is an optional feature and no one must use it, but template contributors are encouraged to do so! Please discuss and let us know if there are any concerns. If there are no concerns we will proceed to deploy the feature on the 9th of August.
Thank you.
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 23:28, 6 august 2018 (CEST)
Šablon:Redirect
U šablonu "Šablon:Redirect" je nepotrebno "se" ( "{{{1}}}" se preusmjerava ovdje. Za ostala značenja, v. [[{{{1}}} (razvrstavanje)]]. ) ... i na Vikipedijama na srpskom, hrvatskom i bošnjačkom jeziku nema "se" u šablonu --SrpskiAnonimac (razgovor) 23:19, 20 august 2018 (CEST)
- Riješeno --E.A.Poe 10:51, 21 august 2018 (CEST)
Editing of sitewide CSS/JS is only possible for interface administrators from now
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Hi all,
as announced previously, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed: only members of the interface-admin
(Administratori interfejsa) group, and a few highly privileged global groups such as stewards, can edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with .css or .js that is either in the MediaWiki: namespace or is another user's user subpage). This is done to improve the security of readers and editors of Wikimedia projects. More information is available at Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS. If you encounter any unexpected problems, please contact me or file a bug.
Thanks!
Tgr (talk) 14:40, 27 august 2018 (CEST) (via global message delivery)
Read-only mode for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October
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The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic to the secondary data center on Wednesday, 12 September 2018. On Wednesday, 10 October 2018, they will switch back to the primary data center.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop when we switch. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Wednesday, 12 September and Wednesday, 10 October. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Thursday 13 September and Thursday 11 October).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be code freezes for the weeks of 10 September 2018 and 8 October 2018. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Johan(WMF) (talk)
15:33, 6 rujan-септембар 2018 (CEST)
Diskusija na bs.wiki
Pozivam kolege sa ovog projekta da se uključe u raspravu! Mislim da se prelaze neke granice, te je bitno čuti i druga mišljenja! Hvala!AnToni (razgovor) 09:40, 21 rujan-септембар 2018 (CEST)
- Hmmm... čini se kako je sindrom hrvatske Wikipedije došao i do Bosne :/ Žalosno :/ --E.A.Poe 11:16, 21 rujan-септембар 2018 (CEST)
- AnToni, znaš i sâm da na pojedinom izdanju Wikipedije korisnička zajednica sama uređuje okruženje u kojem će raditi. Ako želiš surađivati i doprinositi ovdje, uvijek si dobrodošao. :) --Conquistador (razgovor) 16:56, 13. oktobra 2018. (CEST)
Покушај покретања старе дискусије...
Размишљао сам доста о овоме и схватио да вероватно не би било лоше, као што поједине колеге беше и предложише, да се сумира шта је се све неопходно, шта би било добро као додатна опција, а који су могући проблеми за омогућавање "ћирилице на овој википедији". Наравно, то сигурно подразумева да се дефинише и шта се мисли под "ћирилицом на овој википедији". Као што су такође неке колеге натукнуле. Мени је тренутно залогај превелик да проценим шта је све хитно а шта и колико битно што се овог пројекта тиче "ћирилице на сх википедији", па би био користан бар још један пар очију да погледа претходно разговарано и предлагано. Паметно би такође било да буде и свежији од мог пара очију. Ја сам управо због несвхатања шта је добро да се прво уради а онда и како то да се уради одложио решавање овога на неодређено. Остављам колегама да прочитају стару дискусију (ко жели), да се и у њима још једном крчка та "загонетка" шта-како-када, па онда да по могућству оставе неки коментар или предлог. Линк за стару дисусију је овде а где мислим да било добро и да наставимо дискусију која би овако надам се била и централизованија, видљивија и структурисанија - као што такође предложише поједине колеге... а био је ту иначе сијасет корисних предлога, само ваљало би их "крчкати" IMHO како би се искристалисала "есенција". Угодно крчкање желим. --biblbroks (разговор) 12:56, 25 rujan-септембар 2018 (CEST)
- Mislim da je osnovni problem ovdje pisanje "po Vuku", odnosno fonetsko pisanje. Jasno, tekstovi pisani fonetski (dakle ovdje čak i ne govorim o korištenju ekavice i ijekavice) neće biti problematični za "ćirilizirati" jer će Vilijam Fokner lako postati Вилијам Фокнер. Međutim, ako je članak William Faulkner, kao što je - kako to prevesti na ćirilicu? Da li kako Виллиам Фаулкнер ili se može izvesti automatsko prebacivanje na Вилијам Фокнер? Ako je potonja solucija izvediva, dakle ako softver automatski može prebacivati orignalno napisana imena u njihov fonetski oblik, onda mislim da nema nikakve prepreke za implementaciju ćirilice. Ako pak ne može... onda nisam siguran da će varijanta Виллиам Фаулкнер biti zadovoljavajuća, jer onda ispada da smo uveli ćirilicu samo da bismo ju uveli, odnosno da koristimo jedno pismo u varijanti jezika koja to pismo u tom obliku ne podržava. Sukladno tome, trebalo bi iznaći neku soluciju, ali... ja ne znam kako taj softver funkcionira i koje su mu mogućnosti (možda da se kupi forma sa srpske Wikipedije, nekako automatski, da se povuče?) pa nisam pametan što sugerirati.
- Realno, mislim da je to primarni problem. Postoje, naravno i pitanja stranih naslova umjetničkih djela, pravilo izvornika koje se kod nas primjenjuje po pitanju imena filmova, knjiga, etc., međutim mislim da se to lakše da iskombinirati kada se ovaj prvi, najveći prolem riješi :) --E.A.Poe 13:21, 25 rujan-септембар 2018 (CEST)
- Nekako sam sve skloniji mišljenju da se izradi transliterator koji će puko prebacivati latinicu u ćirilicu i obratno, bez obzira na sve probleme koji idu s tim. Oni koji budu prebacivali iz ćirilice u latinicu (vjerujem da će takvih danas biti relativno više), dobit će više-manje koherentan tekst za razliku od onih koji budu prebacivali iz latinice u ćirilicu (vjerujem da će takvih danas biti daleko manje). Ako netko od posljednjih ne bude mogao probaviti u tekstu Wиллиам Фаулкнер, neka se posveti krčkanju kôda. Vjerujem da će mu po uspješnu krčkanju biti zahvalne mnoge institucije u Srbiji, počev od Narodne biblioteke do državne administracije. ;) --Conquistador (razgovor) 17:32, 13. oktobra 2018. (CEST)
- Možda bi ovo i bila najbolja i najpraktičnija solucija za prvu ruku? --E.A.Poe 13:32, 14 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
Slovenska akademija znanosti in umetnosti
Na kom je jeziku napisan ovaj članak Slovenska akademija znanosti in umetnosti, na bošnj. ili hrvat.? --MilanKovacevic (razgovor) 18:25, 10 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- Na srpskohrvatskome, koji – uzgred budi rečeno – neki zovu »bosanski«, neki »crnogorski«, neki »hrvatski«, neki »srpski«... (nastavi glotonimski niz). ;) --Conquistador (razgovor) 17:46, 13. oktobra 2018. (CEST)
Izmena
[1], nije mi jasno šta hvali ovoj izmeni, pa mi je korisnik:Orijentolog poništava? --SrpskiAnonimac (razgovor) 20:43, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- Sve mu je već objašnjeno, a to što ne zna čitati s razumijevanjem i neprestalno se igra besmislenim izmjenama, druga je stvar. --Orijentolog (razgovor) 20:48, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- @Orijentolog:, po tebi nijedan članak ne bi smeo da se prepravi...šta hvali da stoji u članku "i najveći grad", kao što stoji npr. u člancima za Beograd i Zagreb? --SrpskiAnonimac (razgovor) 21:15, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- Nije uopće o tome riječ, to je nebitno, otišlo s automatskim trostrukim vraćanjem. --Orijentolog (razgovor) 21:16, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- @Orijentolog: stavio sam u članku da stoji "i najveći grad" zbog članka o gradu Aleksandriji, u njemu piše da je drugi po veličini grad --SrpskiAnonimac (razgovor) 21:42, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
- Bez izmotavanja, tema su ovakve izmjene [2][3] koje podsjećaju na jedan stariji slučaj [4]. Besmisleno, nepoželjno i botovski, uz razliku što se bota lakše može zaustaviti. --Orijentolog (razgovor) 22:14, 12 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
Inflacija jugoslavenskog dinara
Pozdrav, zna li tko gdje mogu doći do podataka o stopi inflacije i platežnoj moći dinara u FNRJ/SFRJ ('45.-'90.)? Ako odgovarate nakon više nego par dana, molim da me {{ping}}ate jer sam rijetko ovdje. Hvala, Daß Wölf (razgovor) 23:34, 13 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
Wiki4MediaFreedom contest - II edition
Sudjelujte u 2. izdanju natječaja Wiki4MediaFreedom koje organizira Osservatorio Balcani Caucaso Transeuropa! Natječaj se sastoji od pisanja članaka na Wikipediji na temu medijskih sloboda na različitim jezicima, među kojima i srpskohrvatski. Možete izabrati članak sa ponuđene liste ili predložiti novi na stranici za razgovor na Meti. Možete sudjelovati tako što ćete pisati nove članke, dopuniti postojeće ili ih prevesti na druge jezike. Sve dodatne informacije su dostupne na Meti. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (razgovor) 17:50, 19 oktobar 2018 (CEST)
The Community Wishlist Survey
The Community Wishlist Survey. Pomozite pri prevođenju na Vaš jezik.
Hey everyone,
The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech should work on over the next year.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can post technical proposals from now until 11 November. The communities will vote on the proposals between 16 November and 30 November. You can read more on the wishlist survey page.
/User:Johan (WMF)12:06, 30 oktobar 2018 (CET)
Editing News #2—2018
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.
Recent changes
- The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
- The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
- The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
- The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
- The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [5]
Let's work together
- The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
- The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Hvala vam!
15:17, 2 novembar 2018 (CET)
Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web
Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web
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Hello,
In a few weeks the Readers web team will be changing how some templates look on the mobile web site. We will make these templates more noticeable when viewing the article. We ask for your help in updating any templates that don't look correct.
What kind of templates? Specifically templates that notify readers and contributors about issues with the content of an article – the text and information in the article. Examples like Template:Unreferenced or Template:More citations needed. Right now these notifications are hidden behind a link under the title of an article. We will format templates like these (mostly those that use Template:Ambox or message box templates in general) to show a short summary under the page title. You can tap on the "Learn more" link to get more information.
For template editors we have some recommendations on how to make templates that are mobile-friendly and also further documentation on our work so far.
If you have questions about formatting templates for mobile, please leave a note on the project talk page or file a task in Phabricator and we will help you.
Hvala vam!
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:35, 13 novembar 2018 (CET)
Šablon:Općina RH
Šablon:Općina RH ne radi baš najbolje, tj. ne prikazuje neke stavke, npr. "načelnik", "naselja", "poštanski broj", "pozivni broj", "registarska oznaka"... Pogledati ovdje: Općina Jagodnjak.
Razumije li se neko u šablone da pogleda o čemu se radi? Belirac (razgovor) 10:27, 15 novembar 2018 (CET)
- Belirac, donekle sam sredio. Načelnik je ipak automatski gradonačelnik (po matičnom šablonu), a "naselja" se ne prikazuju (nemam pojma zašto). --Orijentolog (razgovor) 02:37, 23 novembar 2018 (CET)
Stranica Srpstvo
Na ovom projektu postoji stranica Srpstvo koja na negativan način govori o ovom pojmu. Članak počinje rečenicom "Srpstvo je apstraktan[1] pojam srpskog nacionalizma koji se koristi za ukupnost "srpskih" naroda i zemalja.[2] Upotrebljava se i kao sinonim za Veliku Srbiju[2] ("ujedinjeno srpstvo").[3]" Dakle pojam o kom su pisali najveći srpski pisci i pesnici, kao što su na primer Njegoš i Šantić je nekakav nacionalistički trip. Pojam Srpstvo se u tekstu poistovećuje sa pojmom Srpski nacionalizam. Ja sam pre par godina malo uljudio ovu stranicu da bi pre par meseci korisnik Orijentolog sve promene vratio. Kada probam da napravim bilo kakve izmene Orijentolog ih vraća. Na primer kada probam da obrišem rečenicu "Za Njegoša je srpstvo prvenstveno religiozna kategorija." on to obrazlaže raznim logičkim vratolomijama izvora koji je citiran. Kada ja navedem referencirane primere koji govore suprotno - citate Njegoševe poezije i pisama Orijentolog ih briše. Eto, nekakvi radovi o Njegošu u kojima uopšte ne piše to što se u članku tvrdi mogu biti referenca za određene tvrdnje o Njegošu, a Njegoševim rečima se ne može referencirati suprotna tvrdnja. Na kraju administrator zaključa stranicu (tako je urađeno i pre par meseci) pa ovaj pljuvački tekst i u velikoj meri uvredljiv sadržaj i dalje ostaje na projektu. Članak ovakav kakav je treba obrisati sa projekta ili dozvoliti kontra-argumentaciju. Stvar je jednostavna - napišeš pljuvački tekst - onda kada neko proba da navede kontra argumente izazoveš uređivački rat - administrator to lepo zaštiti i svi zadovoljni. Sjajno--Orion1964 (razgovor) 06:50, 17 novembar 2018 (CET)
- Njegoš je crnogorski, a Šantić bosanski pisac :D To će biti moj jedini doprinos ovoj raspravi :D --E.A.Poe 23:36, 17 novembar 2018 (CET)
Da, oni jesu crnogorski i bosanski pisci u smislu da su rođeni u Crnoj Gori i Bosni, ali su se izjašnjavali kao Srbi, a to je upravo ono što na toj stranici i pokušava tim logičkim vratolomijama vezanim za Njegoša da se prikrije. Razlog je jednostavan. Pošto nije moguće Njegošu osporiti kvalitet, a puna su mu bila usta Srbije i Srpstva, onda treba napraviti logičku vratolomiju pa reći da Njegoš nije sebe smatrao Srbinom, kako bi se na bilo kakav način on oduzeo od Srbije i Srpstva. Kada ja Njegoševim citatima dokazujem šta je on podrazumevao pod terminom Srpstvo pomenuti korisnik odstranjuje te citate jer je potrebno da nam neko pomoću referenci na stranom jeziku objašnjava šta je Njegoš mislio. Mi smo svi verovatno debili ili je Njegoš pisao na kineskom pa ne možemo sami da shvatimo šta je Njegoš hteo da kaže. Evo dela pisma Njegoša Iliji Garašaninu koji je pomenuti korisnik odstranio.
Nema jednoga Srbina koji više za Srpstvo posluje i misli od Vas, nema jednoga Srbina kojega Srpstvo više iskreno ljubi i počituje od Vas, i nema jednoga Srbina koji Vas više od mene ljubi i počituje.[1]
.Tema o kojoj se piše na pomenutoj stranici je Srpstvo. Kojim pravom se to onda to odstranjuje? Zbog čega vi to vandalsko ponašanje ne sankcionišete nego ga po drugi put u poslednjih par meseci podržavate? Ovim što ste gore napisali ste sami odgovorili na ova pitanja. Slobodno ispoljavanje verskih i nacionalnih osećanja je jedno od osnovnih ljuckih prava. Samo izgleda da mrtvom Njegošu to nije dozvoljeno. Usput se i sprdate pa svom istomišljeniku na stranici za razgovor pišete "Ti si jedan obični, ustašofilni, povampireni srbofob." Zaboravili ste samo da stavite smajlija na kraju. Tu ja valjda treba da poverujem da vi to ozbiljno pišete?! Da vam odgovorim Njegoševim stihovima: Spuštavah se ja niz vaše uže, umalo se uže ne pretrže. Što će reći - ma znam ja vas od ranije.--Orion1964 (razgovor) 07:50, 18 novembar 2018 (CET)
Reference
- ↑ Petrović-Njegoš, Petar (1982). Izabrana pisma. Beograd: Prosveta. str. 190.
Community Wishlist Survey vote
The Community Wishlist Survey. Pomozite pri prevođenju na Vaš jezik.
Hey everyone,
The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech should work on over the next year.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. The communities have now posted a long list of technical proposals. You can vote on the proposals from now until 30 November. You can read more on the wishlist survey page.
/User:Johan (WMF)19:13, 22 novembar 2018 (CET)
Prijevod
Istraživanje liste želja zajednice.
Pozdrav svima,
Istraživanje liste želja zajednice je proces kada zajednice Wikimedije odlučuju na čemu Tehnička zajednica Fondacije Wikimedia treba raditim tokom sljedeće godine.
Tim Tehničke zajednice je fokusiran na alate za iskusne urednike Wikimedije. Zajednice su sada postale dugu listu tehničkih prijedloga. Možete glasati na prijedlozima od sad pa do 30. novembra. Možete čitati više na stranici istraživanja liste želja.
/User:Johan (WMF) 19:13, 22 novembar 2018 (CET)
Advanced Search
Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 12:03, 26 novembar 2018 (CET)
Na današnji dan
Da li se godine koje se vide na glavnoj stranici pokazuju nasumice? Ili, da li je moguće urediti glavnu stranicu (ne vidim tu mogućnost)?
Na današnji dan je pre tačno sto godina proglašena Kraljevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca.
Srpskohrvatski jezik, pod nazivom "srpsko-hrvatsko-slovenski", je bio službeni jezik Kraljevine Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca. Nakon 2. svj. rata, srpskohrvatski je bio jedan od zvaničnih jezika u ustavima svih republika u sastavu SFR Jugoslavije.
--Howsky (razgovor) 16:14, 1 decembar 2018 (CET)
New Wikimedia password policy and requirements
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The Wikimedia Foundation security team is implementing a new password policy and requirements. You can learn more about the project on MediaWiki.org.
These new requirements will apply to new accounts and privileged accounts. New accounts will be required to create a password with a minimum length of 8 characters. Privileged accounts will be prompted to update their password to one that is at least 10 characters in length.
These changes are planned to be in effect on December 13th. If you think your work or tools will be affected by this change, please let us know on the talk page.
Hvala vam!
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:03, 6 decembar 2018 (CET)
Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019
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Love is an important subject for humanity and it is expressed in different cultures and regions in different ways across the world through different gestures, ceremonies, festivals and to document expression of this rich and beautiful emotion, we need your help so we can share and spread the depth of cultures that each region has, the best of how people of that region, celebrate love.
Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an international photography competition of Wikimedia Commons with the subject love testimonials happening in the month of February.
The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.
The theme of 2019 iteration is Celebrations, Festivals, Ceremonies and rituals of love.
Sign up your affiliate or individually at Participants page.
To know more about the contest, check out our Commons Page and FAQs
There are several prizes to grab. Hope to see you spreading love this February with Wiki Loves Love!
Kind regards,
Imagine... the sum of all love!
--MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 11:13, 27 decembar 2018 (CET)
Novogodišnja čestitka
Svim čitateljima Wikipedije želim +sve najbolje za 2019. godinu. --OC Ripper (razgovor) 18:58, 31 decembar 2018 (CET)
- Također. --Orijentolog (razgovor) 05:37, 1 januar 2019 (CET)
- Pridružujem se čestitkama :) --E.A.Poe 12:02, 1 januar 2019 (CET)
- Sretno i berićetno svima! :) --Conquistador (razgovor) 12:19, 1. januara 2019. (CET)
- Srećno! --Alekol (razgovor) 21:14, 3 januar 2019 (CET)
FileExporter beta feature
A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The FileExporter. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: Please check your wiki's configuration file if you want to use this feature.
The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on wikisource.org. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found on the project page.
As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your user preferences. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.
Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 10:41, 14 januar 2019 (CET)
Prijevod
Nova beta opcija će uskoro biti uvedene na sve wikije: FileExporter. On omogućava izvoz svih datoteka s lokalne wikipedije na Wikimedia Commons, uključujući historije datoteka i stranica. Koje se datoteke mogu izvouziti definira svaka wiki zajednica: Molimo provjerite konfiguracijsku datoteku svoje wiki ako želite koristiti ovu opciju.
FileExporter je već dodan kao beta opcija na mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP i na wikisource.org. Nakon što se doda nešto funkcionalnosti, sada će postati beta opcija na svim wikijima. Postavljanje je planirano za 16. januar. Više informacija možete pronaći na stranici projekta.
Kao i uvijek, feedback se posebno cijeni. Ukoliko želite testirati FileExporter, molimo aktivirajte ga u svojim korisničkim postavkama. Najbolje mjesto za feedback je na centralnoj stranici za razgovor. Hvala od projekta Tehničkih želja Wikimedia Deutschland. --OC Ripper (razgovor) 11:02, 14 januar 2019 (CET)
Ima li administrator pravo da štiti podatke za koje je upozoren da nisu tačni?
Izgleda da administrator E.A Po osim što ima ingerencije da odobrava piscima da li jesu ili nisu srpski pisci (bez obzira na to što su se oni tako izjašnjavali) izgleda ima pravo i da vraća i štiti netačne podatke. Na dve stranice sam ga upozorio da su podaci netačni i poslao mu linkove da se obavesti o tome, ali on te podatke ponovo vraća jer sam ih ja prethodno odstranio. On čak ne dozvoljava ni to da pored tih netačnih i nereferenciranih podataka stoji šablon "traži se izvor". Zamolio sam ga da me obavesti ukoliko on zna nešto u vezi tih podataka što meni nije poznato, ali sam dobio odgovor da će me blokirati ako nastavim "spammati stranice glupostima". Da li je to po pravilima Vikipedije?--Orion1964 (razgovor) 20:17, 21 januar 2019 (CET)
- Orion1964, budući da engleska verzija donosi preglednije sadržaj o tome tko su i što administratori, onda evo linka: Wikipedia:Administrators. Što se tiče oznake traži se izvor, uputno je pročitati Wikipedia:Verifiability i Wikipedia:Citation needed. Konačno, smatram da bi bilo dobro da se razgovor o jednom članku (s eventualnim pozivanjem na sadržaj prethodnih linkova!) zadrži u okvirima toga članka i da se ne otvaraju nepotrebni rukavci koji teško da mogu blagotvorno djelovati na primarni spor koji se ionako tiče sadržaja, a ne suradnika. Ili bi se trebao ticati, zar ne? :) --Conquistador (razgovor) 03:25, 24. januara 2019. (CET)
- Conquistador, hvala na odgovoru. Pogledao sam stranice koje ste mi poslali i smatram da je pomenuti administrator ne radi u skladu sa pravilima. Na jednoj od stranica koje ste mi poslali jasno stoji: "To ensure that all Wikipedia content is verifiable, ANYONE may question an uncited claim. If your work has been tagged, please provide a reliable source for the statement, and discuss if needed." Izgleda da za njega oni koji nisu u skladu sa njegovim svetonazorima ne spadaju pod kategoriju "anyone". Ja sam pre "no one" ili "it". My name is Nobody.--Orion1964 (razgovor) 09:43, 24 januar 2019 (CET)
- Nisam siguran koliko {{citation needed}} doprinosi poboljšanju spornog članka. S druge strane, ne valja akcije drugih korisnika shvaćati (pre)osobno. ;) --Conquistador (razgovor) 05:20, 27. januara 2019. (CET)
Nepotrebna preusmerenja za grad Milano
Nepotreba preusmerenja za grad Milano, sva preusmerenja su na raznim jezicima, sve ih treba izbrisati (ostavio sam najbitnije, koji mogu da koriste):
Mailand, Milan Mila, Milan Milaan, Milan Milana, Milan Milanas, Milan Milanu, Milan Milao, Milan Milà, Milan Milán, Milan Miláno, Milan Milánó, Milan Milão, Milan Milāna, Milan Mílanó, Milan Mi lan, Milan Milani, Milan Millano, Milan Mirano, Milan Mylan, Milan Mylanw, Milan Мілан, Milan מילאנו, Milan مىلان, Milan ميلانو, Milan மிலன், Milan มิลาน, Milan მილანი, Milan ミラノ, Milan 米蘭, Milan 밀라노, Milan Mailand (Milan) Mila (Milan) Milaan (Milan) Milana (Milan) Milanas (Milan) Milanu (Milan) Milao (Milan) Milà (Milan) Milán (Milan) Miláno (Milan) Milánó (Milan) Milão (Milan) Milāna (Milan) Mílanó (Milan) Mi lan (Milan) Milani (Milan) Millano (Milan) Mirano (Milan) Mylan (Milan) Mylanw (Milan) Мілан (Milan) מילאנו (Milan) مىلان (Milan) مىلان (Milan) ميلانو (Milan) மிலன் (Milan) มิลาน (Milan) მილანი (Milan) ミラノ (Milan) 米蘭 (Milan) 밀라노 (Milan)
--SrpskiAnonimac (razgovor) 21:28, 29 januar 2019 (CET)
- Slažem se, no nekako mi se čini da je ovo tek vrh ledenog brijega. :( --Conquistador (razgovor) 01:19, 4. februara 2019. (CET)
- SrpskiAnonimac, slobodno na svaki redirect postavi {{bris}} uz obrazloženje nepotrebno ili višak i to bi trebalo biti to. --Conquistador (razgovor) 19:54, 6. februara 2019. (CET)
Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.
We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.
We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.
We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.
We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.
You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
- First, sign up your group here.
- Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
- Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
- When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
- What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
- What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
- What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
- What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
- Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.
You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.
Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.
You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.
Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.
Trizek (WMF) 16:01, 21 februar 2019 (CET)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (March 2019)
Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:
- Kinige – Primarily Indian-language ebooks - 10 books per month
- Gale – Times Digital Archive collection added (covering 1785-2013)
- JSTOR – New applications now being taken again
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Baylor University Press, Taylor & Francis, Cairn, Annual Reviews and Bloomsbury. You can request new partnerships on our Suggestions page.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 18:40, 13 mart 2019 (CET)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
Dodavanje slike na wikipediju
Moze li mi neko reci kako da na neciji clanak dodam sliku? — Prethodni nepotpisani komentar napisao je korisnik Secabili (razgovor • doprinosi) 19:19, 7. aprila 2019.
Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April
12:56, 8 april 2019 (CEST)
Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request
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Prijevod
Wikidata Bridge: edit Wikidata’s data from Wikipedia infoboxes
Sorry for writing this message in English - feel free to help us translating it :)
Hello all,
Many language versions of Wikipedia use the content of Wikidata, the centralized knowledge base, to fill out the content of infoboxes. The data is stored in Wikidata and displayed, partially or completely, in the Wikipedia’s language, on the articles. This feature is used by many template editors, but brought several issues that were raised by communities in various places: not being able to edit the data directly from Wikipedia was one of them.
This is the reason why the Wikidata Bridge project started, with the goal of offering a way to Wikipedia editors to edit Wikidata’s data more easily. This will be achieved by an interface, connected to the infobox, that users can access directly from their local wiki.
The project is now at an early stage of development. A lot of user research has been done, and will continue to be done through the different phases of the project. The next steps of development will be achieved by the development team working at Wikimedia Deutschland, starting now until the end of 2019.
In order to make sure that we’re building a tool that is answering editors’ needs, we’re using agile methods in our development process. We don’t start with a fixed idea of the tool we want to deliver: we will build it together with the editors, based on feedback loops that we will regularly organize. The first version will not necessarily have all of the features you want, but it will keep evolving.
Here’s the planned timeline:
- From June to August, we will build the setup and technical groundwork.
- From September to November 2019, we will develop the first version of the feature and publish a test system so you can try it and give feedback.
- Later on, we will test the feature on a few projects, in collaboration with the communities.
- We will first focus on early adopters communities who already implemented a shortcut from their infoboxes to edit Wikidata (for example Russian, Catalan, Basque Wikipedias)
- but we also welcome also communities who volunteer to be part of the first test round.
- Then we will reach some of the big Wikipedias (French, German, English) in order to see if the project scales and to address their potentially different needs.
- Even later, we can consider enabling the feature on all the other projects.
In any case, no deployment or big change will be enforced on the projects without talking to the communities first, and helping the template builders to prepare for the changes they will have to do on the infoboxes’ code.
If you want to get involved, there are several ways to help:
- Read and help translating the documentation pages
- Follow the updates and participate in the first feedback loop
- Talk about it with your local community
More ideas will be added on this page along the way
If you have any questions for the development team, feel free to ask them on the main talk page. You can also ask under this message, but if you expect an answer from me, please make sure to ping me.
Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:03, 24 juni 2019 (CEST)
Коме се пожалити за линч?
Удружена скупина из моје радне установе наговорила је дио утјецајних корисника - админа и стјуарда - да једног мог пријатеља потпуно искључе са Википедије, иако је направио на хиљаде измјена. Ради се о личној нетрпељивости и зависти. Шта му препоручујете, некон што су га вулгарно вријеђали и брисали квалитетне измјене и чланке?Бајеццобола (razgovor) 17:29, 10 juli 2019 (CEST)
Aliens za Predator 2
Poštovane kolege, budući da sam preuzeo film Aliens i preveo ga na bs-wiki nudim vam Predator 2 u ime međusobne saradnje i razumijevanja. Lijep pozdrav--Zagor Te Nej 2013 (razgovor) 20:19, 10 juli 2019 (CEST)
Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?
Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.
Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.
Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:
Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?
If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.
Follow these instructions and share your experience:
Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:
- Section editing
- The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
- The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
- Loading overlay
- The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.
Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.
New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.
- Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
- Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
- Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
- Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.
Looking ahead
- Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
- Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.
Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
20:32, 23 juli 2019 (CEST)
Foto-konkurs Tragom duše 2019
Zdravo svima! Vikimedijina zajednica Republike Srpske i ove godine radi na realizaciji projekta Tragom duše 2019 u Republici Srpskoj. Ukoliko je neko zainteresovan za učešće ili bilo koji drugi vid saradnje — dobrodošao je! Budite slobodni da nas kontaktirate. --Bojana Wiki PG (razgovor) 14:37, 4. kolovoza 2019. (CEST)
Update on the consultation about office actions
Hello all,
Last month, the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust & Safety team announced a future consultation about partial and/or temporary office actions. We want to let you know that the draft version of this consultation has now been posted on Meta.
This is a draft. It is not intended to be the consultation itself, which will be posted on Meta likely in early September. Please do not treat this draft as a consultation. Instead, we ask your assistance in forming the final language for the consultation.
For that end, we would like your input over the next couple of weeks about what questions the consultation should ask about partial and temporary Foundation office action bans and how it should be formatted. Please post it on the draft talk page. Our goal is to provide space for the community to discuss all the aspects of these office actions that need to be discussed, and we want to ensure with your feedback that the consultation is presented in the best way to encourage frank and constructive conversation.
Please visit the consultation draft on Meta-wiki and leave your comments on the draft’s talk page about what the consultation should look like and what questions it should ask.
Thank you for your input! -- The Trust & Safety team 10:03, 16 august 2019 (CEST)
Prijedlozi za sliku nedelje
Ako tko ima ideju za slike nedelje, slobodno neka predloži nešto. Naravno, cilj je raznovrsnost, sve prema prethodnim odabirima (koji su zaista izvrsni).
Moji prijedlozi, rad i more:
- (ne znam jesu li slične slike već bile):
- File:We Can Do It! NARA 535413 - Restoration 2.jpg
- File:Lewis Hine Power house mechanic working on steam pump.jpg
- File:Noctilucent-clouds-msu-6817.jpg
Potrudit ću se utvrditi za te slike i za vaše prijedloge jesu li već tematski obrađeni.
Ukratko, ogroman trud prethodnih korisnica i korisnika, uređivačica i uređivača.
Ovdje sam priredio način prikaza arhiviranih slika nedelje, kao moguću nadogradnju postojećeg sistema. Možda bi tako bio olakšan pregled slika po godinama, te bi bilo lakše utvrdivo jesu li neke teme dovoljno pokrivene (a druge nužno dovoljno pokrivene). Svaka pomoć je dobro došla. Hvala svima koji će se odazvati pozivu u pomoć. Srdačno, -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 16,45; понедељак, 19. августа 2019 (СЕВ)
Evo još nekih prijedloga: Nije bio Klimt:
Bilo je Van Gohga, ali nisam vidio je li bilo i ove:
- File:VanGogh-starry night ballance1.jpg
- File:El Tres de Mayo, by Francisco de Goya, from Prado in Google Earth.jpg
More:
- File:Vacationers on a Cassis beach (Unsplash).jpg
- File:Green sea, blue sky - panoramio.jpg
- File:Blue Sea (196877231).jpeg
- File:Rocks in the blue.jpg
- File:Blue Blue Sea - panoramio.jpg
- File:La gomera from los gigantes tenerife canary islands blue sea.jpg
- File:Freesia Blue Sea 0zz.jpg
- File:Multi blue sea 3 (30888161441).jpg
-- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 13,45; субота, 24. августа 2019 (СЕВ)
- Ja sam stavio haskije za sljedeći tjedan. Nešto od ovog bi moglo ići za #36. --OC Ripper (razgovor) 13:49, 24 august 2019 (CEST)
New tools and IP masking
Hey everyone,
The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.
We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.
You can post in your language if you can't write in English.
Johan (WMF)16:18, 21 august 2019 (CEST)
Posebno:Doprinosi
Pozdrav!
U Posebno:Doprinosi oznaka za najnoviju izmjenu na nekom članku izgleda kao "( (vrh))", no možda bi ljepše izgledalo kao "(vrh)" (kako se prikazuje i na drugim Wikipedijama). Na stranici MediaWiki:Parentheses-start trebalo bi ukloniti razmak nakon zagrade, a na stranici MediaWiki:Uctop zagrade oko "vrh". --Hmxhmx (razgovor) 15:03, 27 rujan-септембар 2019 (CEST)
The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started
Hello,
In a recent statement, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees requested that staff hold a consultation to "re-evaluat[e] or add community input to the two new office action policy tools (temporary and partial Foundation bans)".
Accordingly, the Foundation's Trust & Safety team invites all Wikimedians to join this consultation and give their feedback from 30 September to 30 October.
How can you help?
- Suggest how partial and temporary Foundation bans should be used, if they should (eg: On all projects, or only on a subset);
- Give ideas about how partial and temporary Foundation bans should ideally implemented, if they should be; and/or
- Propose changes to the existing Office Actions policy on partial and temporary bans.
We offer our thanks in advance for your contributions, and we hope to get as much input as possible from community members during this consultation!
-- Kbrown (WMF) 19:14, 30 rujan-септембар 2019 (CEST)
Your wiki will be on read only for a few minutes on 15th October
Hello
Sorry to use English. Pomozite pri prevođenju na Vaš jezik and share this information.
On Tuesday 15th October from 05:00 to 05:30 AM UTC (07:00 to 07:30 Central European Time), your wiki will be on read-only mode for a few minutes. This is due to a change on the database server. For more information about the operation, please see the corresponding task on Phabricator.
A banner will be displayed just before the read-only time.
Trizek (WMF) (razgovor) 10:59, 1 oktobar 2019 (CEST)
Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project
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Pozdrav. The Readers Web team at the WMF will work on some improvements to the desktop interface over the next couple of years. The goal is to increase usability without removing any functionality. We have been inspired by changes made by volunteers, but that currently only exist as local gadgets and user scripts, prototypes, and volunteer-led skins. We would like to begin the process of bringing some of these changes into the default experience on all Wikimedia projects.
We are currently in the research stage of this project and are looking for ideas for improvements, as well as feedback on our current ideas and mockups. So far, we have performed interviews with community members at Wikimania. We have gathered lists of previous volunteer and WMF work in this area. We are examining possible technical approaches for such changes.
We would like individual feedback on the following:
- Identifying focus areas for the project we have not yet discovered
- Expanding the list of existing gadgets and user scripts that are related to providing a better desktop experience. If you can think of some of these from your wiki, please let us know
- Feedback on the ideas and mockups we have collected so far
We would also like to gather a list of wikis that would be interested in being test wikis for this project - these wikis would be the first to receive the updates once we’re ready to start building.
When giving feedback, please consider the following goals of the project:
- Make it easier for readers to focus on the content
- Provide easier access to everyday actions (e.g. search, language switching, editing)
- Put things in logical and useful places
- Increase consistency in the interface with other platforms - mobile web and the apps
- Eliminate clutter
- Plan for future growth
As well as the following constraints:
- Not touching the content - no work will be done in terms of styling templates or to the structure of page contents themselves
- Not removing any functionality - things might move around, but all navigational items and other functionality currently available by default will remain
- No drastic changes to the layout - we're taking an evolutionary approach to the changes and want the site to continue feeling familiar to readers and editors
Please give all feedback (in any language) at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements
After this round of feedback, we plan on building a prototype of suggested changes based on the feedback we receive. You’ll hear from us again asking for feedback on this prototype.
Hvala vam! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)
09:18, 16 oktobar 2019 (CEST)
RfC za smjenu Admina na hr.wikipediji
U toku je RfC za smjenu Admina na hr.wikipediji. Ako ste imali iskustva s hr.wikipedijom, vasi komentari su dobrodosli. Evo link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Site-wide_administrator_abuse_and_WP:PILLARS_violations_on_the_Croatian_Wikipedia Thhhommmasss (razgovor) 21:15, 21 oktobar 2019 (CEST)
Beta feature "Reference Previews"
A new beta feature will soon be deployed to your wiki: Reference Previews. As you might guess from the name, this feature gives you a preview of references in the article text. That means, you can look up a reference without jumping down to the bottom of the page.
Reference Previews have already been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April. Now they will become available on more wikis. Deployment is planned for October 24. More information can be found on the project page.
As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test Reference Previews, please activate the beta feature in your user preferences and let us know what you think. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. We hope the feature will serve you well in your work. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.
-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 11:47, 23 oktobar 2019 (CEST)
Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages
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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.
Help
What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!
Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.
Talk pages project
The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.
The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.
Mobile visual editor
The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
Edit Cards
- On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
- There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
- Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.
Toolbar
- In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
- One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
- New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
- Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
- Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.
Wikimania
The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.
Looking ahead
- Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
- Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
- Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
12:12, 29 oktobar 2019 (CET)
Ne mogu postaviti fajl
Pri pokušaju slanja slike postera za film dobijem grešku Upozorenje: Ova akcija je automatski identificirana kao štetna. Nekonstruktivna uređivanja biti će brzo uklonjena, a prekomjerno ili ponovljeno nekonstruktivno uređivanje će uzrokovati da vaš račun ili IP adresa budu blokirani. Ukoliko vjerujete da je vaše uređivanje konstruktivno, možete ga ponovo poslati da ga potvrdite. Kratak opis pravila sprječavanja zloupotreba koji se podudara s vašim uređivanjem je: Stvaranje praznih datoteka.
Kako ovo izbjeći i omogućiti slanje slika? Treba mi ova i ova slika za dva članka u izradi; može i neko postaviti, ali volio bih znati zašto filter sprečava postavljanje da ubuduće mogu postaviti sam.
--Obsuser (razgovor) 16:05, 31 oktobar 2019 (CET)
Otkrio sam da je za to kriv ovaj filter (17), koji blokira svakog sa manje od 200 izmjena pod nevalidnim razlogom Stvaranje praznih datoteka. Predlažem mijenjanje opisa filtera ili ukidanje istog. Optremanje datoteka je isto kao i uređivanje stranica i treba da je omogućeno od početka uređivanja; ili, navesti stranicu/smjernicu (guideline) gdje je postignut koncenzus da se zabrani onima sa manje od 200 izmjena. Čak nije "ulovio" nikoga ili skoro nikoga sa vandalizmom do sada (od 283 "pogotka", tj. lažna pogotka, mislim po nazivima fajlova da su svi pokušaji bili s dobrim namjerama i validni a ne vandalizmi): 1
Ako se ne isključi, otpremiti sad-zasad samo File:Superfast!_film_poster.jpg. --Obsuser (razgovor) 17:25, 31 oktobar 2019 (CET)
Wikipedia Asian Month 2019
Pomozite pri prevođenju na Vaš jezik
Wikipedia Asian Month is back! We wish you all the best of luck for the contest. The basic guidelines of the contest can be found on your local page of Wikipedia Asian Month. For more information, refer to our Meta page for organizers.
Looking forward to meet the next ambassadors for Wikipedia Asian Month 2019!
For additional support for organizing offline event, contact our international team on wiki or on email. We would appreciate the translation of this message in the local language by volunteer translators. Thank you!
Wikipedia Asian Month International Team.
MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 17:57, 31 oktobar 2019 (CET)
Special:AbuseFilter/18 is buggy
(Apologize for using English. I don't know how to write Serbo-Croatian.)
Hello! My tool discovers that Special:AbuseFilter/18 is buggy. The regex
'(|</includeonly>|-->|^)((?!<nowiki>|<includeonly>|<!--)[\w\W])*[[(kategoria|категорија|category):'
should escape [[
. Currently if you try
'' rlike '(|</includeonly>|-->|^)((?!<nowiki>|<includeonly>|<!--)[\w\W])*[[(kategoria|категорија|category):'
at Special:AbuseFilter/test and Check Syntax, you will get a syntax error. Let me know if you have any question.
--Nullzero (razgovor) 05:58, 12 novembar 2019 (CET)
Slijedeća izmjena →
Ako zna neko kako / gdje tačno neka popravi prevod u tekstu pri razlikama izmjena jer treba da bude "Sljedeća izmjena →" a ne "Slijedeća izmjena →" pošto je slog kratak pa ide je a ne ije (osim kada se riječ koristi kao prilog pa je dugi slog, npr. slijedeći pravila znam da je "sljedeći" riječ koja se koristi za nešto naredno, a "slijedeći" riječ koja se koristi za način obavljanja radnje). --5.43.80.176 21:44, 19 novembar 2019 (CET)
@Edgar Allan Poe, OC Ripper: Problem je u MediaWiki:Nextdiff. --Conquistador (razgovor) 08:28, 23. novembra 2019. (CET)
- Urađeno je ovo. --Obsuser (razgovor) 17:25, 1 decembar 2019 (CET)
Extension of Wikipedia Asian Month contest
In consideration of a week-long internet block in Iran, Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 contest has been extended for a week past November. The articles submitted till 7th December 2019, 23:59 UTC will be accepted by the fountain tools of the participating wikis.
Please help us translate and spread this message in your local language.
Wikipedia Asian Month International Team
--MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 15:16, 27 novembar 2019 (CET)
Greška u prikazu padajućeg menija u historiji lijevo od "Filtriraj izmjene"
Ima ovdje neka greška kod prikaži/sakrij (proširi/skupi) kod strelice lijevo od "Filtriraj izmjene": može se vidjeti ovdje (slika) a i na svim lajv stranicama kartice historija (ovaj primjer). Vidi se samo dio teksta "širi" (Proširi). --Obsuser (razgovor) 17:25, 1 decembar 2019 (CET)
Članak o hr-wikipediji na Index.hr
Ovdje: https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/hrvatska-wikipedia-je-takvo-smece-da-su-i-vlasnici-digli-ruke-od-nje/2138213.aspx --Maria Sieglinda von Nudeldorf 21:09, 8 decembar 2019
- Takvo stanje će potrajati, jer i kada bi otišli ti admini treba vremena da se sve o historiji neutralizuje i dekroatizira.
- Ali ima većina tekstova u normalnoj verziji na :bs: i većinom :sr: (na međurazumljivim jezičkim standardima) plus ovdje na :sh: (ono što nije prekopirano sa :hr: na :sh:). --Obsuser (razgovor) 22:11, 8 decembar 2019 (CET)
Ćirilica, latinica
Zna li neko zašto sh.wikipedia.org (i bs.wikipedia.org) nema(ju) kao sr.wikipedia.org pretragu sa ćiriličko-latiničkim konvertorom, uz opciju preslovljavanja teksta (tagovi se mogu zanemariti)?
I ako postoji razlog za to, nadam se da je OK ovdje na sh praviti preusmjerenja sa pisama, ali to mi izgleda besmisleno jer onda za svaki naslov bi u principu moglo da se pravi preusmjerenje, a to je isti broj preusmjerenja kao i broj članaka. --Obsuser (razgovor) 08:10, 14 decembar 2019 (CET)