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Questions from the CEE Hub regarding your technical village pump

Hello and sorry for writing in English. There is an automatically translated version below, feel free to modify it if it contains errors.

I'm user Strainu, member of the CEE Hub Steering Committee. One of the directions of the Hub for 2025 is to support its member communities technically, including for technical village pumps. We would like to understand how you use this page, so I would appreciate your answers to a few questions:

If you have a technical problem, does it usually get an answer here?
Does your project have enough technical members to respond such questions?
Are there any profiles missing locally? (for instance: gadget creators, bot creators, people with graphical skills etc.)
On a scale from 1 to 10, how important is it for you to receive an answer in the project's language?
Would you be willing to support smaller communities to resolve technical issues if you get notified about such questions?

Thank you! Based on the community's responses, we will try to provide some ideas that would support you in the next few months. Best, Strainu (razgovor) 10. februara 2025. u 13:22 (CET)[odgovori]

Ja sam korisnik Strainu, član CEE Hub Upravnog odbora. Jedan od pravaca Huba za 2025. godinu je tehnička podrška njegovim članicama, uključujući tehničke seoske pumpe. Želeli bismo da razumemo kako koristite ovu stranicu, pa bih cenio vaše odgovore na nekoliko pitanja:

Ako imate tehnički problem, da li obično ovde dobijete odgovor?
Da li vaš projekat ima dovoljno tehničkih članova koji mogu odgovoriti na takva pitanja?
Da li nedostaju neki profili na lokalnom nivou? (na primer: kreatori gadžeta, kreatori botova, ljudi sa grafičkim veštinama itd.)
Na skali od 1 do 10, koliko je važno za vas da dobijete odgovor na jeziku projekta?
Da li biste bili voljni da podržite manje zajednice u rešavanju tehničkih problema ako biste bili obavešteni o takvim pitanjima?

Hvala! Na osnovu odgovora zajednice, pokušaćemo da pružimo nekoliko ideja koje bi vas podržale u narednim mesecima. Srdačno, Strainu (razgovor) 10. februara 2025. u 13:22 (CET)[odgovori]

Hello @Strainu, we sincerely appreciate your commitment to technically support small CEE Hub member communities.

Most issues of technical nature are more likely to get an answer here than in other places on the wiki, unless specifically addressed to another active editor more knowledgeable about the specific issue.
I believe we lack in the number of tech-savvy editors but all questions posed so far have been resolvable relatively easily and quickly.
At the moment, there is only one local and active editor capable of creating technical solutions for the needs of the entire community. We do not have dedicated creators of either gadgets, graphics, or scripts, relying instead on the replicable solutions from larger wikis (sometimes to no avail).
Getting help at all, in any language, takes precedence to not getting any. English is the first foreign language of most editors in our community. Translation tools and LLM are widely accessible on the Internet for others.
Yes. The m:Cross-Project Collaboration Initiative was in fact established by several CEE Hub member communities from the region (as an attempt) to strengthen the practice of offering and receiving help, although this project has yet to gain momentum.

Cheers! – Vipz (razgovor) 10. februara 2025. u 17:43 (CET)[odgovori]

Sub-referencing: User testing

Apologies for writing in English, please help us by providing a translation below

Hi I’m Johannes from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes team. We are making great strides with the new sub-referencing feature and we’d love to invite you to take part in two activities to help us move this work further:

Try it out and share your feedback
Please try the updated wikitext feature on the beta wiki and let us know what you think, either on our talk page or by booking a call with our UX researcher.
Get a sneak peak and help shape the Visual Editor user designs
Help us test the new design prototypes by participating in user sessions – sign up here to receive an invite. We're especially hoping to speak with people from underrepresented and diverse groups. If that's you, please consider signing up! No prior or extensive editing experience is required. User sessions will start May 14th.

We plan to bring this feature to Wikimedia wikis later this year. We’ll reach out to wikis for piloting in time for deployments. Creators and maintainers of reference-related tools and templates will be contacted beforehand as well.

Thank you very much for your support and encouragement so far in helping bring this feature to life!

Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 28. aprila 2025. u 17:03 (CEST)[odgovori]

We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon!

(Apologies for posting in English)

Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the old Graph extension was disabled in 2023 due to security reasons. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the Charts extension, which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the EasyTimeline extension.

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from May 6. Please, consult our page on MediaWiki.org to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also consult the documentation about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org, or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the talk page or at Phabricator.

Thank you in advance! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 6. maja 2025. u 17:07 (CEST)[odgovori]

Changes to the way some users are granted the right to see temporary account IP addresses

Hello! This is the Trust and Safety Product team. We would like to share that we have decided to change the requirements for access to temporary account IP addresses. The impact on your community will be minimal. We are planning on implementing the change in the week of May 26 (T393358 + T393360 + T390942). I will keep you updated about the details.

We are only changing the rules for users who do not have extended rights (e.g. admins, bureaucrats, checkusers – see the policy for more examples) but their account is a minimum of 6 months old, and who have made a minimum of 300 edits on this wiki. They will lose access to IP addresses (T393360), and to have it back, they will need to apply for the right. Admins or stewards will decide whether to grant it (T390942). This will entail human manual work, but this method will be safer than if we continued to grant the rights automatically. We want to emphasize that fewer than five users who don't have extended rights have ever revealed a temporary account's IP addresses on your wiki.

We made this decision based on what we heard from you, piloting wikis, particularly Romanian Wikipedians. We also consulted on options with Stewards, and had discussions on Meta-Wiki and about 20 Wikipedias with large communities. When we deploy temporary accounts to more wikis, we will evaluate the impact and may adjust our approach again.

In addition, we'd like you to know that requirements for access to the IP Info feature will be identical with the ones for access to the temporary accounts' IP addresses (a user will either have full information or none).

The rationale for the change

We chose the current numerical thresholds and automatic granting before deploying temporary accounts on any wiki. However, it’s become clear to us that these requirements are quite low and it is still too easy for bad-faith actors to gain access to temporary account IP addresses. We want temporary accounts to meaningfully improve editor privacy, so we need to be more restrictive. Our goal is to more consistently limit IP address access to only those who need it.

How will this work

When a user without extended rights needs to view temporary account IP addresses, they will need to file a request for being added to the "Temporary account IP viewers" group. They will file the request to admins (the local communities will be able to decide what that process will be) or stewards (for wikis without local admins).
The software will require that the user has at least 300 edits and the account since at least 6 months. Admins and stewards will not be able to grant temporary account IP access to accounts that do not meet that criteria. This is a minimum, and we encourage you to enforce higher thresholds.
The user reviewing the request will check if the user applying for the right meets requirements and that they have provided a valid justification. The right itself will be granted through Special:UserRights.
Users who grant requests for the right will also handle removal of the right.

We would also like to clarify some details. For your convenience, we will also document some of it in the project FAQ.

Access to IP addresses

Separation of the new right (checkuser-temporary-account) out to a new group (Temporary account IP viewers), as opposed to technically attaching it to any existing group (like patroller). We have decided to do this for a few reasons:
- Having access to IP addresses carries risk. This right is similar to checkuser. IP addresses are considered personally identifiable information (a kind of personal data). Outside actors who want to access IP addresses will now need to interact with users who have this right. Users with this right should be aware of this, and alert to the possibility of suspicious access requests.
- Good practices for privacy protection. Giving access to users who are trusted but do not need access to carry on their work is not in line with good practices for processing personal data.
- Removal of right. Access to IPs will be logged (example). If any misuse of this right is detected, it can be taken away separately from any other permissions the user may hold. It would be difficult and sometimes also unreasonable to remove the rights unrelated to access to IP addresses.
- You may grant the new right to all users belonging to a certain existing group individually. These users must meet the criteria for Temporary account IP viewers, though.
- For clarity – all this does not affect administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, stewards, and other groups mentioned in the global policy.
Activity requirement. With regards to users who would need to be granted access manually, the policy says that they "must edit or take a logged action to the local project at least once within a 365-day period". This requirement is not changing.

Process of granting the right

Formality of granting the right. There is no need for discussions or votes like Request for Adminship. It does suffice if a single admin makes a decision using their own judgement.
Additional requirements for the users applying for the right.
- You have autonomy over the process for granting the right. You can adopt thresholds higher than 300 edits, or disallow the "non-admin+" users to have the right. The granting process can be as basic or elaborate as you deem appropriate.
- Which criteria admins should take when deciding whether to grant the right – how to tell whether a user needs access to IP addresses? There are no mandatory requirements beyond a minimum of 300 edits and a 6 month old account. You may introduce additional criteria related to trust to the user (such as no prior blocks or copyright violations) or experience in patrolling activities.
Additional burden on administrators. We understand the toil of having to grant and remove an additional right. This is indeed a downside. We think that it will only have to be a one-time effort to grant this right to a larger number of people. We are curious if you can find ways to limit this burden.

Next steps on your side we would like to suggest

We are encouraging you to consider adopting a policy on granting and removing the right, if you think you need to add anything to the global policy.
We are encouraging you to start granting the right. Considering our data (up to a few non-functionaries have ever revealed temporary account IP addresses here), we believe you don't need to rush or spend a lot of time preparing for this before the change comes into force, though.
We would like to show you what level of wiki-bureaucracy seems sufficient from our point of view. In the sandbox, we have created a draft of what a page with requests for the flag could look like. Of course the final content of the page will depend on your community. We do not want to imply that we are instructing you on this matter.

Let us know if you have any questions. Thank you! NKohli (WMF) and SGrabarczuk (WMF) (razgovor) 16. maja 2025. u 04:22 (CEST)[odgovori]

Join the 6th Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign – 2025 Edition

Dear Wikipedia community,

(Please help translate to your language)

We invite your community to participate in the 6th edition of the Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign, a global campaign taking place from July 1 to August 31, 2025.

Participants will choose among Wikipedia pages without photos, then add a suitable photo from among the many thousands of photos in the Wikimedia Commons, especially those uploaded from thematic contests (Wiki Loves Africa, Wiki Loves Earth, Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Monuments, etc.) over the years.

More than 80 Wikimedia affiliates have participated since the campaign was launched in 2020 and have added images to more than 400,000 Wikipedia articles in over 245 Wikipedia languages. Thanks to the volunteer contributors!

We now invite your community to organize and lead the campaign within your community. As a local organizer, you may:

Encourage individual members to take part by adding images to Wikipedia articles.
Host edit-a-thons focused on improving visual content.
Organize training workshops to teach contributors how to correctly integrate images into Wikipedia.

These activities will help build local capacity and increase visual content across Wikipedia.

Please note that for participants to be eligible to participate in the campaign, they need to have registered an account for at least a year before the official start date of the contest. That is, for the 2025 edition, they must have registered an account on or before July 1, 2025. The account can be from any Wikimedia project wikis.

The organizing team is looking for a contact person to coordinate WPWP participation at the Wikimedia user group or chapter level (geographically or thematically) or for a language Wikipedia.

We would be glad for you to sign up directly at WPWP Participating Communities.

With kind regards,

User:Reading Beans On behalf of the Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos campaign 2025. MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 18. maja 2025. u 23:53 (CEST)[odgovori]