Razgovor s korisnikom:Dcirovic

Doslednost

Dobar dan

Molim Vas da glavni naslov odrednice "Mjerna nesigurnost" vratite na "Merna nesigurnost". Ceo tekst odrenice je ekavica, pa radi doslednosti treba takav da bude i glavni naslov. Unapred hvala.

--Goran M. Kostić (razgovor) 09:47, 12 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Rusi, Mađari, etc.

Oprosti, ali što radiš s ovim imenima? Nismo ni Rusi ni Mađari pa da pišemo imena kao i oni? :/ --Biljezim se sa štovanjem,Poe 00:40, 23 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

Da, očito je došlo do nesporazuma ili dovođenja situacije do apsurda. Naravno da ne koristimo strana pravila nomenklature (Mađarska, Japan, Rusija, ...), međutim pišemo imena kako se pišu tamo. Dakle, neće ići Leh Valensa nego Lech Wałęsa, ali ostaje činjenica da će Lajos Kossuth i Fjodor Dostojevski i Hidetoshi Nakata... biti pisani tako :) --Biljezim se sa štovanjem,Poe 00:54, 23 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

Naravno da se poštuje pravopisna i leksička struktura srpskohrvatskog jezika. Kod nas se ne piše prvo prezime pa ime i to se poštuje jer je takav pravopis našega jezika. S druge strane, specifična slova i akcenti na pojedinim slovima nisu stvar pravopisa, već širine abecede. Ovo što si ti izveo je dovođenje situacije do apsurda i potpuno izokretanje pravila koje je usvojeno (onda isto tako uredno možemo pisati nazive članaka na hebrejskom, japanskom, hindiju i ostalim jezicima koji nemaju ista pisma, a da bi tako apsurdno tumečenje pravila imalo smisla). Mislim, lijep pokušaj, ali djeluje mi promašeno. No, da ne bi bilo previše rasprave sada ovdje jer bi ovo moglo otići u neželjenom smjeru - kao i svatko dosad, slobodan si pokrenuti raspravu po ovom pitanju da se postigne konsenzus (naravno, s obzirom na uspjeh ranijih, trebat će ti dosta sreće u postizanju tog konsenzusa), a dotad bi bilo uputno da se primjenjuje nepisana praksa koju poštuju, koliko me memorija služi, svi --Biljezim se sa štovanjem,Poe 01:13, 23 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

"Pravila" i drugo

Želim nešto razjasniti ne samo za ovu ovu "svađu" nego i cjelokupnu situaciju zadnjih par mjeseci. Svaki put kad se priča o tebi i tvojim doprinosima ovdje, bilo da je riječ o engleskim biografijama, italijanskim naseljima, šablonima, kategorijama ili nečem drugom, uvijek se sve svodi na greške, greške i greške. Opaske tako dolaze od mene, Edgara, Viteka, itd. Po tome nažalost ispada da si loš i nekonstruktivan, da samo radiš negativne stvari, da bi brojni ovdje željeli da te najradije nema. Meni je to već postalo iritantno i zato ti ovo sve pišem da budemo načisto – ti istina radiš na stotine i stotine grešaka, ali u odnosu na stotine hiljada doprinosa to je jedno veliko ništa. Greške ti se broje u promilima, kao i kod recimo Rippera, Edgara, itd. Činjenično stanje jest takvo da si se i ove i prošle godine pokazao kao daleko najbolji korisnik projekta, bilo po produktivnosti, kvaliteti članaka i tehničkoj potkovanosti. Stoga, molim te nemoj ni u ludilu misliti da će se takav moj stav promijeniti ako redovno prigovaram ili ispravljam nekih 0,0...1% grešaka koje radiš. :) Ako si slučajno moje prigovore protumačio drugačije, otvoreno se izvinjavam zbog nesporazuma.

Što se tiče Pristlija kao specifičnog slučaja, mogao si primjetiti da smo i ja, Ripper i Edgar redovno prebacivali fonetizirana imena na izvornike, sve po pravilima koja su doduše interna. Međutim, ta pravila vrijede samo za naslove i kategorije, unutarni sadržaj se ne dira i stvar je subjektivnog izbora. Kod nelatiničnih slučajeva složili smo se da se favorizira fonetizacija, tako da bi bilo bolje da su npr. jemenska naselja koja si nedavno nanizao u takvom obliku. Opet, nije riječ o grešci jer ne može se od korisnika tražiti da nauči arapski i prevodi, tu vrijedi "bolje išta nego ništa". Ne znam jesi li vidio ali Bokica je jednom predložio da čitav projekt fonetizira jer bi tako bilo lakše implementirati ono preslovljavanje na ćirilicu. Ipak, to opet mora proći glasovanje i lavovski posao prebacivanja desetina hiljada članaka, ali nije ako je to cijena za dvoazbučnost moj će glas definitivno biti "za". Toliko za ovaj put, živio! --Orijentolog (razgovor) 10:51, 23 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

Izmjena naslova

Pozdrav Dcirovicu,

pošto ti imaš alate, molim te, bi li mi mogao promijeniti naslov članka "La Orana Maria" u "Ia Orana Maria"? Učinio sam tipkarsku grešku. Hvala.--Wolmar (razgovor) 01:10, 28 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

Wikidata weekly summary #164

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: Ateliers Wikidata
  • Upcoming: Wikimania. There will be several talks and workshops related to Wikidata. Say hi at the "Ask Us Anything" session for Wikidata if you're there.
  • Reductionism
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Which geographic areas do different Wikipedias cover? How does it compare to Wikidata? Markus has a beautiful answer
  • Wikiproject Molecular Biology and AskPlatypus are shortlisted for the OpenData Award \o/ This is the award Wikidata won last year.
  • Paper on vandalism on Wikidata. Lydia is in touch with them to figure out how to best use the insights for us.
  • Reasonator got some updates: it is now using external ID formatter URLs, has monolingual string support and better social network links
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: number of children, MovieMeter movie identifier, MovieMeter director ID, Foursquare venue ID, BoxRec ID, Biblioteca Nacional de Chile catalogue number, sortkey, properties for this type, patron, Comité des travaux historiques et scientifiques, Google Scholar ID, Dutch Senate person ID, Trismegistos ID, Wikisource index page
  • Newest External tools: Wikidata Compare
  • Showcase items: none. Yours next week?
• Development
  • Jonas joined the team and Adam is back \o/
  • Deployed arbitrary access to ruwiki and cswiki
  • Machine readable versions (in various formats) of Wikibase entities will be advertised in their page heads as alternate link. (phabricator:T96298)
  • Fixed property label on item pages not scrolling anymore (phabricator:T94588)
  • More work on getting the Wikibase Quality extensions ready for release. The part doing constraint violation checks should go to test.wikidata.org next week. The part doing checks against 3rd party databases will still take a bit longer but is also shaping up nicely.
  • Made it possible to create items even when another user is mass-creating items (phabricator:T103796)
  • Bene* worked more on making Wikidata work nicely on mobile
  • Fixed weird issue with cursor jumping around in sitelink input field (phabricator:T103489)
  • Fixed an issue where it was not possible to edit a statement after you removed its only reference (phabricator:T103603)
  • Lydia will be traveling for much of July. Expect her to be a bit less responsive during that time.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 20:15, 28 jun-липањ 2015 (CEST)

Wikidata weekly summary #165

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussion about Atheism and the religion property.
  • Discussion about the Verifiability of data as a policy.
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming: Wikimania. There will be several talks and workshops related to Wikidata. Say hi at the "Ask Us Anything" session for Wikidata if you're there.
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • A new database report lists people categorized as dead in Wikipedia, but lacking Property:P570 (date of death). It's updated several times during the day. There are about 20 to 30 new entries each day. There is currently some backlog from the Arabic, Marathi, and Thai Wikipedias. Items updated first in Wikidata wont appear in the report. They are listed directly in Wikidata's recent deaths report.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: RSL editions, Open Hub ID, number of children, MovieMeter movie identifier, MovieMeter director ID
• Development
  • Adam wrote a blog post on the improvement of the data after one year and GeneaWiki
  • After the next deployment, Special:ItemDisambiguation will match aliases and be case insensitive.
  • Improved details of matches in the entity suggester (wbsearchentities api module)
  • Deployed the WikibaseQuality and WikibaseQualityConstraints extensions to test.wikidata.org
  • Fixed the layout of long qualifier names
  • JSON dumps are now automatically copied to labs
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 23:16, 4 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Portico

Kao prvo poštovani kolega želim Vam čestitati - što ste ovu wiki doveli na prvo mjesto ex yu wikija sa preko 425 000 članaka. Ali ima jedan mali problem, vaš bot radi i katastrofalne greške, - pogledajte ih i sami kod članka portico, koji je tako iskreiran. Kao prvo izbio je ispravan link sa en wiki portico na naš postojeći članak portik - umjesto na stranicu Portico (disambiguation). Kao drugo ne radi se o naseljima, već o kvartovima (frazione) slijedećih naselja (odnosno općina);

• Romano di Lombardia (tak bi trebalo pisati) - Portico, Bergamo
• Nuvolento (ista stvar) - Portico, Brescia
• Ricengo (ista stvar) - Portico, Cremona

Hajde de ovo se može širokogrudno protumačiti, da su i to naselja (zaseoci) - tih mjesta, ali ih je onda trebalo bar navesti. Te kvartove nemaju ni Talijani, ali kad ih već imamo - još da je sve točno - bog i šeširdžija.

--Vitek (razgovor) 01:29, 8 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

PS Ovo sama zaboravio dodati - u načelu se i ja slažem sa kolegom Orijetologom, - Vaš doprinos je neusporedivo značajniji od svih grešaka koje proizvodite.

--Vitek (razgovor) 01:37, 8 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Wikidata weekly summary #166

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Slides on Primary Sources Tool and Wikidata introduction (in Spanish) for the Donostia-San Sebastián Wikidata Editathon
  • Presentation about Wikidata at the Axel Springer Hack Day 2015
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikiresearch looked into the coverage of the moon by geotags in Wikidata
  • Wikiresearch published a visualization of the relationship between nationality and occupation based on Wikidata's data
  • Which zoo has polar bears? Wikidata attempts to answer the question here. Work in progress.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: MCN code, Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani, Anime News Network anime ID, Anime News Network manga ID, Anime News Network company ID, Anime News Network person ID, FSK film rating, PolSys ID, Righteous Among The Nations ID, USDA NDB number, lesarchivesduspectacle ID, INEGI locality identifier
• Development
  • The Wikidata Quality extension (constraint reports per item) was deployed. You can now use d:Special:ConstraintReport to see the result for different items. This is for example the constraint report for the item cat (Q142).
  • 8 million additional statements from Freebase were made available through the Primary sources tool
  • Moving towards having a single edit button to edit references along with the value they belong to.
  • Bene continued working on phasing out the deprecated Entity superclass and making more entity types possible.
  • More work on phasing out a deprecated serializer implementation we still use in certain places.
  • Further work on the new RDF export.
  • PHPCS is now used on each change in Wikibase to ensure the code fulfils certain code quality standards.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 13:03, 12 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Wikidata weekly summary #167

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Open request for adminship: Nikki
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Right now: Wikimania
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Magnus made some new tools:
    • list of scientists on Wikidata born after 1950 with no image, grouped by employer. Check your university!
    • list of scientists on Wikidata born after 1950 with no ORCID iD, grouped by employer. Ditto!
    • an InfoBitt replacement
    • a tool you can use to match up Wikipedia articles without an item to either an existing item or a create a new one if none exists
    • plus Mix'N'Match got new datasets you can help match up with Wikidata
  • P2000 was created.
  • Some presentations at Wikimania related to Wikidata have detailed slides online:
    • WikiProject Sum of All Paintings
    • Templates are dead! Long live templates!, technical presentation on the function and future of template syntax
    • Future of structured documents: VisualEditor, Citations and Wikidata, oh my!
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: CPDL ID, UNESCO language status, UCI code, Facebook Places ID, parliament.uk bio link, medical specialty, AllMusic composition ID, TeX string, Plazi ID, LPSN URL, species kept, Encyclopaedia Metallum artist ID, Delarge ID
  • New task forces: Linguistics
• Development
  • Attending Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City right now, meeting awesome people that already use or want to know everything about Wikidata.
  • After the next deployment, redirects will be automatically created when merging items.
  • Special:UnconnectedPages can now be queried via the query API, thanks to Ladsgroup.
  • Migrating away from an older serializer to the DataModel Serialization component.
  • Worked on a new time parser that can parse formats like M/D/Y, Y M D and so on.
  • Fixed a bug where a value could not be edited when save failed.
  • Made the snak type, badge and rank selectors position themselves after resizing the browser window and introduced a possibility to collapse the sitelinks sections.
  • Worked on a change in editing to be able to edit a statement and it’s references in one step.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 17:48, 19 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Brisanje

[1] Obrisi ovo za potrebe tehnickih promena na pojektu. --Kolega2357 (razgovor) 23:40, 23 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Hoces li prestati da se pravis Englez? Zasto to ne uradis kada ti lepo kazem? --Kolega2357 (razgovor) 23:52, 23 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Gomilanje prava

Dcirovicu tvoje ignorisanje je premasilo svaku meru nije mi jasno zasto bespotrebno gomilas prava? [2] Na ovom nalogu ti je dovoljna samo bot zastavica. --Kolega2357 (razgovor) 14:04, 24 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)

Po cemu sam ja to drzak, napadan i bezobrazan? Jel zato sto ti zdravorazumski nesta kazem? Nemoj da prebacujes svoje osobine drugom molim te. Da gomilas prava gomilas ih. Ako je neki nalog bot nalog onda treba da ima bot zastavicu i to je to a ne vidim razlog zasto treba da ima autopatoler i flood flag zastavicu kada u pravima za bota ima i jedno i drugo. Shvati ovo kao najbolju nameru. --Kolega2357 (razgovor) 14:09, 24 jul-српањ 2015 (CEST)